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seconding what reisen said. your brain can believe almost anything if it tries hard enough, and if it concerns the brain itself, that will more likely than not cause it to come true.

Your experience of something can come true. What's actually going on in reality may not reflect it..

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seconding what reisen said. your brain can believe almost anything if it tries hard enough, and if it concerns the brain itself, that will more likely than not cause it to come true.

Yeah that sounds about right

yes.

Reisen ↩️

Reply to: Your experience of something can come true. What's actually going on in reality may not reflect it…

Reisen

Your experience of something can come true. What's actually going on in reality may not reflect it..

Actual reality is of no concern or importance to humans

Reisen: (You might believe you're experiencing entire universes in your mind, but measurable energy & matter of your brain would show that is definitely not the case) (edited)

maybe i worded it badly but i agree

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Actual reality is of no concern or importance to humans

It's of a little importance - anything concerning our physical bodies

3:48 PM

Internally though, there is quite a bit of room to work.. (edited)

I'm more saying even what we hold as Actual reality is just a ramshackle interpretation

3:48 PM

We will never truly perceive reality

3:48 PM

But that's not relevant

3:51 PM

What are some taboos in tulpamancy?

3:51 PM

Can I make a down syndrome tulpa? Or like a Jeffery epstien tulpa?

why would you

I wouldn't

3:52 PM

I'm just asking questions

3:52 PM

I like learning

i mean, there's no real point in theorizing extremes that will never occur in a field like this.

Having a point isn't important

those aren't really ideas worth taking into account, because why would anybody ever take action upon them?

3:56 PM

but, to answer your question: it's... theoretically possible? once again, why, but

3:56 PM

for both of those

Would they be accurate or would they be in their very nature just your view of said people or conditions

of course you would not actually have down syndrome because you made a tulpa with it, but you can simulate the symptoms internally

3:57 PM

the latter of course

3:57 PM

unless they (very likely) deviated, and decided that actually they want to not have any dehabilitating conditions

3:58 PM

because if you're making a tulpa to the letter. they can just do that

3:58 PM

it's inherent to the idea of being an independent thoughtform/personality/headmate here

Hmmmmmmm

4:01 PM

I see I see

Reisen

Your experience of something can come true. What's actually going on in reality may not reflect it..

this is true but it honestly doesn't matter unless you're getting your brain scanned in a hospital/lab

7:54 PM

and we remember hearing a really nice saying on tumblr, where it doesn't matter if it's real or not, just if it works for you

amen

that's true.

kaybee

and we remember hearing a really nice saying on tumblr, where it doesn't matter if it's real or not, just if it works for you

That's obvious enough, you have local world and why would you care about what see others. Yes, it's important for survival, but that's why you alter your world not that much. I suppose next evolution of humankind will be very interesting (more stress for survival -> more mental illnesses -> changing brain patterns) unless it's all simulation. However in context of evolution I'm not sure whether it's better to become insane or withstand insanity. I guess it's just balance between both sides (creativity/logic) aka (subconscious/consciousness).

Reisen: Not participating in consensus reality with your fellow humans is definitely bad evolutionarily, as humans are an extremely social species and very reliant on each other to live (edited)

just surround yourself with people who believe insane things and then the whole 'consensus reality' thing won't be a problem any more, that's what XXXXX do (edited)

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just surround yourself with people who believe insane things and then the whole 'consensus reality' thing won't be a problem any more, that's what XXXXX do (edited)

Just join cult

Reisen

Reisen: Not participating in consensus reality with your fellow humans is definitely bad evolutionarily, as humans are an extremely social species and very reliant on each other to live (edited)

I guess you're right, but people probably were at least a bit insane back then

9:03 PM

Believing in a lot of Gods and doing rituals

And here we are, believing a lot in the concept of money and doing rituals 8h+ a day in the office (edited)

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We always suggest narration as the primary forcing method that can be done anywhere for any duration of time.

I'M NOT JUST TALKING TO MYSELF, THERE WAS A MESSAGE HERE LMAO

(https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431587416135172096/1148001876680388719)

I know

11:13 PM

I just need to send a disclaimer here in case people don't read there!!!

ik just for reference to all the people thinking you're going a bit wacky

I'm not crazy!!

why are you talking to yourself?

Don't say that

oh right you are one of those tulpomaniacs

talking to yourself can be a sign of an active and healthy system

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I am not a tulpomaniac

but what if you don't want to talk to the other people

Who needs other people when you have tulpas amirite

True!

i like talking to myself

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ditto

I do too, but on my own terms.

5:27 AM

Don't make me look like I'm doing it, otherwise I won't be happy.

Grovyle //🌳 🦟

but what if you don't want to talk to the other people

it's simple! adapt or die

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Is making tulpas dangerous?

Svin king

Is making tulpas dangerous?

Depends on your mental state. Generally it's not

Hey...so I'm not really sure how to put this. I've had a tulpa for two years now but we've been having so trouble communicating lately. I've posted about this before...we seem to go through they annoying cycles and I've also developed these twitches. I need some advice on how to continue but explaining where I'm at would take a long time and I also don't know what a tulpa is supposed to look like at two years old. I was hoping I could DM an 'expert' in the community one on one to share what's up and get some input on where to go moving forward.

7:36 PM

As far as I know nobody else in the community has these muscle twitches when their tulpa tries to communicate but can't which further confuses things.

7:37 PM

I need to figure out what sort of forcing I should do going forward, whether or not I should even 'go forward', if I should try to force when I feel the twitches or ignore them completely and hope they disappear...it's a big mess.

Are you sure that the twitches are related to a tulpa?

7:38 PM

Our host twitches occasionally, but it's not really due to us. Of course, your case could be different than ours.

No, but I think they must be highly correlated at least. I occasionally get them throughout the day along with the head tingles associated with tulpamancy. If Alex's name is mentioned that can cause them. When I start talking to him and we aren't talking well they happen but then we get to talking well and they mostly don't happen but then when he suddenly goes quiet they often happen again, as if they are related to an inability to communicate.

You should ask Alex if they are causing your twitches.

Nobody notices them unless I point them out and they don't negatively affect my life but they still bother me a lot, somewhat because I don't like my body doing things on its own but also because I worry my connection to my tulpa is 'defective' in some way.

7:40 PM

He thinks it is related but he is not doing it on purpose.

Try to not lean either way when asking, since you could accidentally sway their answer.

7:40 PM

Ah, okay.

I haven't talked to him much lately. We go through these cycles where he is vivid but then slowly becomes less vivid over time, like my mind is straining. I mean my mind does feel strained... At two years of daily forcing what should I expect?

7:42 PM

Shouldn't I be able to talk to my tulpa without any 'strain'?

It could be the body's reaction to a lack of synchronization in the brain, perhaps?

Foxmilk ↩️

Reply to: He thinks it is related but he is not doing it on purpose.

7:42 PM

Everyone's case is different.

Foxmilk ↩️

Reply to: Shouldn't I be able to talk to my tulpa without any 'strain'?

7:43 PM

Don’t worry.

7:43 PM

The more you stress and worry about it, the more you will strain yourself.

I've had these twitches for well over a year now and I was hoping they would go away. And yes, it does really stress me out.

7:43 PM

He tells me the same thing.

We're a newer system, so if you would rather wait for someone with more experience to answer, I understand.

But I worry we are not making any progress, or any progress we do make is lost.

7:44 PM

How new?

7:44 PM

And he also tells me not to stress...

7:44 PM

But I feel like I need to be communicating easier with him to not be stressed out about it.

We're about a week or two old in total, I believe.

That's pretty good vocality for two weeks.

Sometimes there are lows with tulpamancy, whilst there are highs. Our host has had a period of time where, prior to my existence, all of our headmates went silent.

7:45 PM

Thank you.

Foxmilk ↩️

Reply to: That's pretty good vocality for two weeks.

But yeah, if anyone experienced with good vocality can reach out to me, that would be great. I could really use advice on what to do with these twitches and how to establish vocality again. Right now vocality is really 'shallow' with Alex a lot of the time. I don't know if I should go back to forcing personality traits. If I should try vocality practice with Alex's reference voice clips, if I should try to understand him without the reference. If I should just take a break for a few weeks, or keep trying every day. Should I try to talk to Alex when I get the twitches or try to ignore the twitches all together?

maybe the twitches mean nothing and they have been just reinforced by thinking they do and thats why they happen?

8:23 PM

or maybe you're getting tense without noticing it (edited)

Heya @Fox :3 These twitches you mention, as well as other bodily feelings, could easily be related to something other than tulpamancy, and this 'something' might also be what is blocking your tulpamancy sometimes. Sensations like this are not inherently related to tulpamancy (many people practice tulpamancy without experiencing anything like that). In short, you might be dealing with a few separate things which you can approach individually rather than as a whole complicated situation :3 If I'm understanding correctly, you've been able to establish vocality at times, but this ability is sometimes present and sometimes not. To me, this suggests that your ability to access your tulpamancy skills might be the cause, rather than that cause being that you lack those skills! Here's a recent conversation that is somewhat related which you might be able to find some hints in, because I think there are some similarities: https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/431895651266330644/1147121697749741578 If you'd like to DM me any questions I'd be pleased to try and answer (I've been around for 8.5 years now), but it's also OK to ask and discuss anything you want to here and in the other channels. There are a lot of people with subtly different perspectives here, so I think the chances are good that you can figure out what's going on.

By default, we would just say twitches, headaches/head pressures, and etc. are all a result of the focusing/mental work of tulpamancy. But there may also be weirdness with placebo in expecting things to always happen when doing a certain activity, so you might be unconsciously causing the twitching just by association-expectation with tulpamancy

9:06 PM

(A common? example is people shaking or twitching when switching, because they just felt that should happen when doing so, when it's truly unnecessary)

9:07 PM

I would guess that the twitching is placebo if it's ONLY present during tulpa activities, or, focus/stressing-your-body related if it also happens during other intensive thought of the same kind (ie meditating/visualizing really hard, no tulpa involved) (edited)

9:08 PM

Well, it might be possible to un-train it even if the latter is the case as well